High frequency hiss in several movies - Social Sound Design most recent 30 from http://socialsounddesign.com2013-05-24T09:17:28Zhttp://socialsounddesign.com/feeds/question/13609http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/rdfhttp://socialsounddesign.com/questions/13609/high-frequency-hiss-in-several-moviesHigh frequency hiss in several moviesMichael Manzke2012-04-19T18:06:38Z2012-04-24T14:34:24Z
<p>While watching a DVD I realized that in certain scenes there was some very annoying high frequency hiss.
Logic's analyser told me, that they were at about 14kHz and 16,4kHz.</p>
<p>Since this is not the first DVD that has this kind of hiss I wonder if it is some error that happend while getting the film onto DVD or some other kind of error.</p>
<p>Does anybody of you have a clue? </p>
http://socialsounddesign.com/questions/13609/high-frequency-hiss-in-several-movies/13612#13612Answer by Andres Duarte for High frequency hiss in several moviesAndres Duarte2012-04-19T21:15:11Z2012-04-19T21:15:11Z<p>Hmmmm... what was the DVD about? I mean, concerts? films?</p>
http://socialsounddesign.com/questions/13609/high-frequency-hiss-in-several-movies/13613#13613Answer by Stavrosound for High frequency hiss in several moviesStavrosound2012-04-19T23:01:03Z2012-04-19T23:01:03Z<p>It's highly possible the tone wasn't detectable on the stage if it was large enough to be running an X-Curve. And thus if the film wasn't re-mixed for DVD/BluRay as they normally are, it's possible that tone which was always present is now audible in a near-field/mid-field home theater environment. Don't know this for a fact, could be a possibility though.</p>
http://socialsounddesign.com/questions/13609/high-frequency-hiss-in-several-movies/13614#13614Answer by Andres Duarte for High frequency hiss in several moviesAndres Duarte2012-04-19T23:14:00Z2012-04-19T23:14:00Z<p>It was just for reference :), I don't think that is the explanation either. However, it's useful to know it is a feature film.... Films are usually mixed in environments similar to those of a movie theatre; <strong>if I am not wrong</strong>, speakers in theaters usually don't go up very high in the frequency spectrum, they are quite dull, so it very probable that the hiss that you can hear in those frequencies wasn't very, or maybe at all audible in the mixing stage, so maybe they didn't re-mixed it for the DVD release and that's why you get some hiss, specially if you are listening in some -pretty good- quality monitors. </p>
<p>I hope that my knowledge is pretty accurate, and that this helps :).</p>
http://socialsounddesign.com/questions/13609/high-frequency-hiss-in-several-movies/13618#13618Answer by Chris Bishop for High frequency hiss in several moviesChris Bishop2012-04-19T23:35:49Z2012-04-19T23:35:49Z<p>Was the hiss noticeable during the louder parts, too? Or just soft parts. Could be a result of improper dither. Compressing audio for DVD, you have to dither down to 12 or 16 bit, which can cause an audible hiss in the lower levels. Just a thought. My guess is residual tape hiss if it's an older film that's been put to DVD without re-mastering (as was mentioned) if not that.</p>
http://socialsounddesign.com/questions/13609/high-frequency-hiss-in-several-movies/13619#13619Answer by Max H. for High frequency hiss in several moviesMax H.2012-04-19T23:53:34Z2012-04-19T23:53:34Z<p>Does it sound anything like HMI lighting? I hear that now and again. But I suppose that's more of a whine.</p>
<p>Recently I just watched a DVD with EXTREME hiss in some scenes coming from the center channel whenever dialogue was present. It was clearly being expanded downward between lines. Let's just say this film was about clocks and orphans. Anybody else notice this?</p>
http://socialsounddesign.com/questions/13609/high-frequency-hiss-in-several-movies/13621#13621Answer by Pier for High frequency hiss in several moviesPier2012-04-20T00:42:10Z2012-04-20T00:42:10Z<p>Maybe it's your decoder?</p>
http://socialsounddesign.com/questions/13609/high-frequency-hiss-in-several-movies/13653#13653Answer by Tumppi for High frequency hiss in several moviesTumppi2012-04-23T11:02:14Z2012-04-23T11:02:14Z<p>Or maybe it's all about the original location sound recording :)
There is so much needed to be done while shooting. Muting HMIs, Camera noise, HD noise of RED and such, killing reverbs etc... And sometimes location recording team don't get the chance to do their job properly, unfortunately.
And maybe those productions don't appreciate clean dialog so much that they'd ADR such problematic scenes...</p>
<p>Bye / Tumppi</p>
http://socialsounddesign.com/questions/13609/high-frequency-hiss-in-several-movies/13672#13672Answer by Mark Durham for High frequency hiss in several moviesMark Durham2012-04-24T09:52:58Z2012-04-24T09:52:58Z<p>Have you tried ripping the DVD to see if it's actually on the disc? This would be the best way to determine if it's your equipment or not.</p>
http://socialsounddesign.com/questions/13609/high-frequency-hiss-in-several-movies/13681#13681Answer by Alexandre Saba for High frequency hiss in several moviesAlexandre Saba2012-04-24T14:34:24Z2012-04-24T14:34:24Z<p>I've noticed this as well in certain films, big and small budget. Generally seems to only happen when dialogue is played, which leads me to believe it is from the location sound. I've even once noticed it only for one actors dialogue. Seems like it would be easy to filter out with a narrow band eq or a noise remover plugin. Then again if your hearing doesn't exceed 12K, you're not getting that information.</p>