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I used the waves one and now i'm trying the Eiosis E2deesser: I found its approach really interesting and natural sounding. I use a combination of that plugin and multiband compression.

I have read about the sonnox, but have only used it for a few hours.

What do you use?

Davide

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I use Oxford Suppressor.

I also use a Dynamic EQ.

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I totaly agree that manual de-essing is much better than automatic, but it's only possible when you have plenty of time, and short programm to edit. when you have to mix (like here in italy) a 90 min tv episode in just a few days, you have to find the compromise between quality and intelligibility (and avoid to work overtime and over (tight) budget). :) hope to here more about your strip-silence/detective experiment! – Davide Favargiotti May 12 2010 at 23:41
there is, of course, always the alternate track method. if you're worried about the whole dialogue track getting mucked up, duplicate it and put your de-esser on the new track. then mix between the two as needed, even if it's just a frame or two. with the proper settings you can get a smooth transition without too much tonal shift, and it's a reasonable compromise between time management and getting some detailed reduction. – Shaun Farley Aug 9 2010 at 18:45
@Ryan - Switch between the two with crossfades as needed. You leave the duplicate completely out of the mix until you need it. I learned this trick from an engineer who had to do this kind of stuff before you could program automation. It's pretty much the same thing, but I feel like it gives me just a little bit more flexibility when I need it. It's also a lot faster, because the track is already there, no switching between track views. So, it can make for a faster mix session in the right scenarios. – Shaun Farley Aug 9 2010 at 21:02
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Only ever used the Waves one and the one built into Logic. Don't really use a de-esser that often, but I've always liked the one built into Logic better.

If I'm doing music, I often manually de-ess in PT.

What are you using it for? Dialogue or singing?

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I use it for dialogue (production and adr). I'm really not a fan of de-essing, but in tight timing and with trouble sounding lines it's really a time saver. – Davide Favargiotti May 12 2010 at 9:03
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I actually just started using iZotope Alloy and find its de-esser to be quite good and versatile (for more than just Ss).

--jpf

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cool. I never used it. i'll give it a try. how does the EQ (and the other module sound? and how heavy is on the cpu? – Davide Favargiotti May 12 2010 at 15:37
It's a terrific suite of tools with very low CPU. Best to d/l their demo at iZotope and give it a real workout for your projects! – Jeffrey P. Fisher May 13 2010 at 18:29
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Wave Renaissance De-esser is my favourite.

Mike.

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I either manually gain down the "esses" or use a multiband compressor with the band on the offending frequency set to high ratio, fast attack, fast release.

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My personal favourite is the Massey Desser... great sounding and very flexible.

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Agreed, this is my fav as well. Also can "Re-Ess" if you actually want more sibilance - like in pulling just hi-hat hits out of a mic that has too much bleed from the other drums on it. – Leigh Marble Oct 20 2010 at 1:12
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I enjoy nuendo's de-esser, it works for me, however it is a plugin on 3 but not on nuendo 4, do i have to download it, if so from where?

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Volume graph The dialogue editor usually does some while editing & does others during final mix, as they become apparent....

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I use the volume graph and I have the digidesign deesser on the dialogue bus, which is mostly bypassed, but automated and active if there are too many S's. I always use it in HF only mode.

I only use it at the very end of working with dialogue, and only if necessary.

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